Lie there, my art. Wipe thou thine eyes; have comfort.
The direful spectacle of the wreck, which touch'd
The very virtue of compassion in thee,
I have with such provision in mine art
So safely ordered that there is no soul--
No, not so much perdition as an hair
Betid to any creature in the vessel
Which thou heard'st cry, which thou saw'st sink. Sit down;
For thou must now know farther.
The Tempest. Act ii. Sc. 2
I've been trying to come up with the Theory of Everything
for this show for a few weeks now, and I figure I really need to start
back at the beginning and go through it clue by clue.
The problem is that I can't decide what to make of the beginning.
Central to my quandary is the question "Did the plane really crash"?
An intact plane trying to land on the beach would have a snowball's chance
in hell of crashing with any survivors. This plane broke apart in mid-air,
and 47 people from the mid-section survived? Jack was supposedly thrown
a thousand feet into a jungle and only had a cut on his back and a few
minor scratches?
Now, I understand this is TV, and not reality. Cars don't really blow
up when you shoot them with ordinary bullets, pistols don't have pinpoint
accuracy at 100+ feet, and grenades do not explode with fire. This just
adds to my confusion.
We never actually saw the plane crash, just before and after. Did everyone
black out after they put on the "oxygen" masks?
So, the question is, are we supposed to assume that this was just a "Hollywooded"
plane crash, or is this the biggest clue of all?
WallyG3
Hmmm. This is a good point. We didn't see the plane actually crash. Maybe we will eventually, but as of now we haven't. The thing is, it had to have crashed, because the plane broke apart in at least 3 pieces. The front section, where the pilot was sitting, was found further into the jungle. Without the pilot to control the plane, there was no way it could have landed softly enough for the people in that section to survive. So how did they...? What exactly happened in those moments before Jack woke up on the ground, relatively unhurt? And why was he thrown clear, anyway?
cinderellabop
I've often wondered this, but one statement hinders all such theories: Kate said that she was conscious throughout the crash in the first part of the pilot.
One way around this is to assume that the plane may have had electronics
problems and the pilot was much much lower than he thought when problems
arose. The problem with this theory is that this only works if the pilot
was flying blind. It looked to be late morning and cloudless when Jack
awoke; the pilot would have certainly been able to tell if he was more
than a few thousand feet off the correct altitude/
Radagast de Brun
I think sayid is a terrorist and we are going to find out he was ordered to blow up that plane in order to save someone else's life. He did not want to do this so he made it so the plane was broken into 3 parts by precisely placing the explosives.
gscaleta
Yes, the plane crashed. Why, seems to me to be the important
question. Was it really an accident? Was it sabotage? Was it outside intervention
and if so by whom? Was it fate? Was it all of the above or none of the
above?
Wynter Zera
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I've often wondered this, but one statement hinders all such theories:
Kate said that she was conscious throughout the crash in the first part
of the pilot.
I've been wondering the same thing--whether the plane really crashed or
if this is all some kind of artificial situation our "survivors"
have been placed in. (Although a cockpit full of dead bodies is a pretty
extreme artificial situation.) One way out of the problem of Kate saying
she was conscious during the entire crash is if the memories of our 14
survivors are false memories. I've been playing around with the false
memory theory because of Locke's miraculous recovery from paralysis; maybe
he was never really paralyzed but only "remembers" being paralyzed.
I haven't figured out any plausible scenarios for the nature of the false
memories--it's just something that keeps hanging out around the edges
of my mind/
SayidsGirl
I find this highly suspicious myself, WallyG3. It just doesn't make sense that 48 people survived such a catastrophic event. I also find it odd that we never actually saw anyone emerge from the wreckage.
That's why I favor a cloning/resurrection scenario, which posits that
they died in the crash, but are no longer dead (i.e., no purgatory).
awsecond
I think another part of the plane crashing that we need to look at is what happened to the back part? The cockpit was found and the middle section as well. The black lady (for some reason I can not remember her name) said her husband bernard was not dead and that they probably thought the same thing about all of the middle survivors being dead as well. It doesnt seem by the way the plane crashed that they were over the island when it happened, but if they were the back end survivors could be somewhere else on the island
annala413
i would place the time of the crash at approximately 7:00PM aussie time.
Jack and Jin were in line checking it at 11:15 (i knew that'd come in
handy). So you could say that the plane departed something close to noon.
Six hours later the pilot turns around and 1000 miles later they crash
and shortly after the crash Jack wakes up.
leftofpunk
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Central to my quandary is the question "Did the plane really crash"?
An intact plane trying to land on the beach would have a snowball's chance
in hell of crashing with any survivors. This plane broke apart in mid-air,
and 47 people from the mid-section survived? Jack was supposedly thrown
a thousand feet into a jungle and only had a cut on his back and a few
minor scratches?
I've been saying from the beginning that I don't think the plane crashed; that it was designed to appear that it had crashed, and that this whole thing is a set up. The survivors were placed on this island, many of them deliberately wounded to different extents to make it look as though they were in a plane crash, (and yeah, I know,what I'm describing is pure evil, but sadly even in the real world there are people who are that evil) possibly as part of some sort of test or experiment on human nature. There's no way to know who is staging all of this; maybe aliens, the government, some evil scientific research agency or, for all I know, the League of Women Voters, but I believe it has been staged. Heck, I think it's even possible that this is the ultimate 'reality show' like an evil version of The Truman Show and that the survivors are going through this for someone's entertainment.
As for what Katie said; if I remember right she never said she saw the
crash; she said she saw the back part of the plane break off, but in the
flashback she saw this occur just before she put on the 'oxygen' mask
and blacked out like ever one else. The 'oxygen' masks had a knockout
gas in them and the plane was designed to break apart in mid-air without
crashing just to further convince the survivors that they had crashed.
Of course, I could be wrong, but the guessing is the fun about all of
this.
roar822