Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.
The Tempest. Act ii. Sc. 2
This is really just a list. I need to think more about the possible import of these connections. But I thought I'd throw it out here so people could add or comment.
Hurley and Walt: Both fling open the curtains of their hotel rooms, perhaps
indicating a desire to “throw light” on things. Hurley almost
literally throws light on the hatch, though he lies when Kate asks him
about the numbers. Walt ultimately is the one who gets Michael to light
up the night sky; and he asks Michael about what happened with Michael
and his mom. Aside from the luck/curse connection, and the comic book,
Hurley and Walt both have a hard time getting people to listen to them/take
them seriously.
Hurley and Arzt: Arzt complains about not fitting in/being able to be
happy. Hurley tells him it’s all in his head (like maybe the curse
is all in Hurley’s head). Arzt’s death seems to cause a break
in Hurley. Soon after that he starts mumbling the numbers like Lenny.
Of course Hurley feels responsible, but perhaps this sense of not fitting
in/being able to be happy also could have triggered something.
Locke and Jack (the destiny twins):
- Jack says, “kate, no one owes anyone anything.” It seems
like an odd thing for Jack to say. It sounds more like Locke, to me.
- “What's was what about?” – Jack and Locke both ask
this when questioned about their actions.
- Jack and Locke also share a connection on the idea of luck: Jack says
finding the caves was luck; Locke says finding the Nigerian place was
luck. Jack tells Kate the dynamite carrying was the “luck”
of the draw, although then he went against luck/fate, and made his own
decision.
- Jack saved Locke from going down the hole, like Locke saves Jack from
falling off the cliff.
Locke and Michael: Hope. Locke has the hatch and Michael has the raft;
plus, a feeling that there is some kind of plan. Michael says that Walt
wasn’t “part of the plan.” Locke’s mother tells
him he’s part of some grand design. Both have to do with mothers.
Kate, the slaves on the ship, Sawyer, and Jin: They were all manacled/handcuffed
at some point.
Claire/Danielle: Danielle: there’s no such thing as monsters. Claire:
there’s no such thing as fate. Fate is conflated with the monster.
Claire and Danielle are also connected by their determination, and hysteria
spooky
"Locke and Jack (the destiny twins):"
Yeah, those two have always been compared/contrasted in a weird complicated
way. That conversation they had in the finale about how Jack is a man
of science and Locke is a man of Faith makes them seem like total opposites,
but they have more in common that they think. I also noticed the Locke
saving Jack from falling off that cliff, and Jack saving Locke from the
monster, I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, but if it was intentional,
it was really subtle because those two episodes are very far apart.
A couple more examples:
Locke repeatedly says "Don't tell me what I can't do", and Jack
says this when he is trying to save Boone.
Both say "All due respect, but..." when Jack asks
why Locke didn't tell anyone about the hatch.
Both were betrayed by their fathers, involving kidney surgery of some kind. (Jack's father severed the patient's hepatic artery, which leads to the kidney, and Locke's father used him to get his kidney.)
I also like the Hurley/Walt connection, that's why Hurley gave Walt the
thumbs up while boarding the plane and Walt smiled even though he'd been
looking all blank when Micheal tried to talk to him.
runhideordie
Those are great observations spooky, and I think there is a reason for some of them. It'll be interested to sort the wheat from the chaff.
I don't think Arzt has a connection to anybody. Sure, he was a trigger
for Hurley to backslide toward Lenny, but I wouldn't call that a connection.
I truly think the writers were sending us on the boards a message with
Arzt - redshirts don't matter. They are simple tools for advancing the
plot if anything.
LostinWilderness
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I also noticed the Locke saving Jack from falling off that cliff, and
Jack saving Locke from the monster, Reminds me of Teresa too.... falling
up the stairs, falling down...
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Good connections Spooky. I've come back and read this a half a dozen times
already.
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Still confused on the Hurley waving to Walt in the plane... The backwards/forwards
dejavu thing and the repetition of people behind Hurley one minute, then
ahead of him next - I'm confused on. Did I miss something?
sawyerhasbestlines
Runhideordie wrote:
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(Jack's father severed the patient's hepatic artery, which leads to the
kidney, and Locke's father used him to get his kidney.)
Oh, that’s interesting. I never even noticed that.
LIW wrote:
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Sure, he was a trigger for Hurley to backslide toward Lenny, but I wouldn't
call that a connection.
Fair enough. I have to think more about the message we were being sent
about the redshirts. It’s a pretty potent comment by the writers
I think. If it’s just telling us about the redshirts, that’s
one thing. But I don't know, I totally understood Hurley's guilt, after
I was laughing myself when Arzt got blown up.
SHBL wrote:
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Still confused on the Hurley waving to Walt in the plane... The backwards/forwards
dejavu thing and the repetition of people behind Hurley one minute, then
ahead of him next - I'm confused on. Did I miss something?
Are you referring to Lace’s pictures of the lady in the shorts?
I don’t remember any other people showing up. Were there other people?
If it’s just her, it could be that it’s a continuity error.
I definitely think there’s something to the idea of repetition,
though – both structurally in the narrative and psychologically
for the characters. But that would be a post of its own. And I’m
hoping drabauer will start it, cuz I’d really be going out on a
limb
spooky