Not a soul
But felt a fever of the mad and play'd
Some tricks of desperation. All but mariners
Plunged in the foaming brine and quit the vessel,
Then all afire with me: the king's son, Ferdinand,
With hair up-staring,--then like reeds, not hair,--
Was the first man that leap'd; cried, 'Hell is empty
And all the devils are here.'
The Tempest. Act i. Sc. 2
A few child related thoughts and/or questions: In tonight's
episode we once again see Walt able to manipulate reality to gain what
he wishes for, when he and Hurley are playing backgammon.
This answers whether or not Walt was responsible for the rain stopping
when his father promised to go looking for Walt's dog, for instance; this
is now at least the third time we've seen this happen (Walt get what he
ardently wishes for).
Now, we also know (assuming that Danielle was being truthful - and in
this instance, I believe that she is) that Danielle's child Alex was taken
by "them"; we now know that "they" are also responsible
for taking Claire.
Can it be that children are able to tap into some type of psychic - well,
at least unseen and currently unknown - energy more easily than adults
do? This may account for Ethan's great desire to get ahold of Claire's
new born baby. We dont' know if Alex was an infant or small child when
kidnapped - but what if he/she was?
Perhaps the younger the child, the greater the ability to tap into this
unseen force, as well as control the child that is able to do this. An
older child, such as Walt, is halfway to adulthood and less likely to
be controlled in as complete a way as an infant or small child. It's also
possible that his age and relatively maturity means that he can only come
into contact with this power intermittently.
Some sort of Id manifestation or amplification able to be achieved on
this island, perhaps? A baby has no real sense of self as an older child
does, much less an adult.
It may be also that the psychic's warnings were simply a red herring by
the writers for us as viewers to glom onto, and it's not that *Claire's*
baby that is of importance, but just that it's a baby at all.
Just some random thoughts post episode...
lauradelenn
A couple things, I think that because children have fewer
ties to the outside world, they have less desire to leave the island and
are rewarded faster than the others. (Locke is a special case because
he had nothing left on the outside world) I predicted a while ago that
Walt would be the next one to be "infected" and that he would
eventually choose Locke over Michael.
But I do want to disagree that we know that "the others" took
Claire. We know that Claire is with Ethan and that Ethan was on the island
beforehand, but Claire could easily be cooperating with Ethan and Ethan
could be working against "the others" that have the sickness.
KillBuckner
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But I do want to disagree that we know that "the others" took
Claire. We know that Claire is with Ethan and that Ethan was on the island
beforehand, but Claire could easily be cooperating with Ethan and Ethan
could be working against "the others" that have the sickness.
I disagree - unless you think that she believes that Charlie is infected with this sickness? Ethan (or someone) hung Charlie - that's a pretty radical thing to do! I cannot imagine her cooperating in any way with a stranger, especially one at which she looked at with such fear at the end of "Raised By Another".
lauradelenn
I don't think it was ethan that hung Charlie. I think that Locke and the others are working towards teh same goals, Ethan is working against them. He whisked Claire away to keep her away from Locke. I don't know whether the others found all 3 of them and captured Charlie or whether Charlie was sent away by Ethan, but I really don't think Ethan is the one that hung him. And by Charlie's own statement, "all THEY want is claire". I don't think he will have any recollection of ethan at all when we get another episode.
KillBuckner
Still might be a Peter Pan syndrome working here. Remember in the movie Hook, when they were hungry the played the imagination game, and got a banquet of goodies? Children may be the ultimate power on the island
rottenralf
I think you are right on target with this, lauradellen. I
think the "others" can read minds, which is how the castaways'
fears and desires have been manifested), and that children are more susceptible
to this process.
I also think these psychic powers are related somehow to the "sickness,"
which is why Claire's baby will be so powerful. It will have been exposed
to the psychic sickness since the womb.
awsecond
Sooo.....does that mean that Ethan has that super strength because he is descended from Adam and Eve (who have been mentioned as possibly being Amelia Earhart and Fred Noonan), so is a child of the island. Did the children of the Island kidnap Alex and Claire's soon to be born baby to expand the gene pool, you can only marry so many cousin before defects start to occur. Is the island reaching out to grab airplanes and boats? So many theories...so little time....
rottenralf
i agree with you that children seem to have a "special"
connection with the island -- walt's hopes and fears seem to manafest
themselves somewhere in the plot of the story. Children may have an easier
time to harness the power the island gives them because they have a much
larger imagination and their mind is clear of the clutter (and sence of
reality) that adults have. But many of the adults have had expirences
with the supernatural. Claire's baby suddenly started moving again. Locke
could suddenly walk. Jack revived charlie. when the adults are having
these expirences, they seem to be very deep, very intense feelings that
create the impossible to happen.
Mabye there is a connection the island seems to have with people -- and
the adults have not figured it out yet. But "the others" have.
Mabye that is why they seem to have super human powers, which have been
discussed in other areas of the board. once our group begins to realize
the powers that they have, then there can be a fair fight between the
two -- between, apperently, good and evil (the black & white theme
we have all noticed). Just a theory.
Mr. Bigglesworth
Mr Bigglesworth, I agree that IF there are some "power" or enhanced abilities on the show, all the castaways have some access to them. It seems to me as well that these Others have figured that out, and our protagonists (except perhaps for Locke, who's "seen the mystery") haven't yet.
drabauer